Neville Goddard Lectures: "A Riddle"

Neville Goddard Lectures: “A Riddle”

4/28/69

Tonight we will take a riddle. We are so accustomed to this strange, false, secular interpretation of scripture that we do not realize how daring it is. It is not history as the world understands it. It hasn’t a thing to do with the drama on earth; it’s all about the soul, the reality of man. So the question is asked in the 30th chapter of the Book of Proverbs, “Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son’s name? Surely you know!” (30:4). So do we know? That’s the beginning of the riddle. It’s a challenge and only the indolent mind would fail to accept the challenge.

Now, in the Old—for the New is only the interpretation of the Old—the question is asked concerning a father and a son. “It is the glory of God to conceal things, but it is the glory of kings to search them out.” We find that in the Book of Proverbs, the 25th chapter: “It is the glory of God to conceal things, but it is the glory of kings to search them out” (25:2). Now we go to the last book of the Old Testament, “A son is the glory of his father. If then I am a father, where is my glory? says the Lord of hosts to you, O priests” (Mal.1.6). Now he includes in the word “O priests” all who assumed this right, the authority to interpret the Word of God, whether you be pope or one just starting a little ism, who dares to establish some little ism. So he asks a question, “A son is the glory of his father. If then I am a father, where is my glory?”—that is, where is my son, says the Lord of hosts to you— O priest.

Now, let us from actual experience unriddle the riddle. For this is a riddle; it’s not secular history. Hasn’t a thing to do with anything that took place on earth as you and I understand it. It takes place in the soul of man. Now, who is the king, the only king made by God? We’re told in the Book of 1st Samuel, he said to his servant the prophet Samuel, “Go to the house of Jesse, for I have chosen one of the sons of Jesse to be king” (16:12). He will serve me. So Samuel goes to the house of Jesse and announces the purpose of his visit and Jesse brings out his sons. One after the other they are rejected…that is not him, are there any others? He finally brings out the little one who was tending the flocks, a shepherd, and his name was David. As he came into the midst, the Lord said to Samuel, “Arise, anoint him; this is he. And the Spirit of the Lord came upon him mightily from that day forward.” So here we find the king spoken of. He is the king, no other king. Man chose the king, his name was Saul; but the Lord rejected the choice of man and the Lord chose the king.

Now let me tell you, in symbolism of scripture David represents humanity. If you took all the generations of men and all of their experiences and fused them into one grand whole, and personified that concentrated time, you would find an eternal youth, and his name is David. That’s what you would see. So that is the king of kings, the result of the experiences of the entire play that God has written. Every part in the world God wrote it. We are really the story of Job, an innocent being. The word Job means “Where is my father?” Here is a blameless creature who went through such hell that he cursed the day wherein he was born and the night that said a man-child was conceived. He heard of a Father, he heard of God the Father, but never saw him. He is searching, “Where is my Father?” for that’s his name. In the end of the drama you read the words of Job, “I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees thee.” And he sees the cause of all his conflicts. It is said in scripture, the last chapter, the 42nd chapter of Job, that when Job prayed for his friends who were going through the same horrors of the world, then his entire captivity was lifted and he received a hundred-fold more than he had prior to the conflicts that he went through (42:5). Then his brothers, his sisters, and his friends came and ate bread with him in his own house and comforted him and sympathized with him for all the evil that the Lord God had brought upon him. He found who was the cause of it all and found the one who brought all the hell upon him was himself. Here, he himself was the cause of all of the conflicts of his world.

Well, that is our world. There is nothing but God in this world. I don’t care what the world will tell you, there is only God. So everyone in the world going through the hell that is this world is the cause of what he goes through, and in the very end he is going to find the reason behind it. Only one being in the world can tell him that he is that God. There is not a being in the world…I can tell you from now to the ends of time…but I can’t persuade you. No, you can hear it and you’ll say, “Neville said it and Neville wrote it, so I read it and I heard it, and I know others who heard him; but I am waiting to see him. So I have heard of him by the hearing of the ear. I’m waiting for that moment in time when I can say, ‘But now my eye sees thee.’”

Now, how will my eye see thee? We are told…and a gentleman is here tonight. I don’t even know what I said last Friday night, for when I say it’s behind me, it’s all under inspiration and I do not know…it just comes out and I tell you and I go home. He called me on Saturday morning and said, “Neville, what you said last night on Friday night was so inspiring to me that I went home and I read the 89th Psalm. I thought I would take my concordance”—the one I recommend which is Strong’s Concordance, which gives the definition of every word in scripture as it was intended when written. Not as the words change in meaning as words do; these are the original meanings of words as used in scripture. He said, “I opened up the book and my eyes fell first upon the title. Well, I thought I wouldn’t take the title for granted, I will look I up.” So he looked up the title…it’s a maschil…the title is A Maschil of Ethan the Ezrahite. Well, you’d go right over that like saying the book is written by John Doe…so who is John Doe and you skip it. But he didn’t. He took his Concordance and looked it up. Well, Maschil is a special instruction, something that is precious…that is Maschil. Do not overlook it; it is a special instruction in the Psalms.

Ethan means “permanent” and Ezrahite means “concealed, as in the bosom, something cherished, something loved, to hide oneself.” Now here, this is special instruction permanently concealed within the bosom that is cherished and loved. Then, of course, you go through the Psalms and here now is a discovery of the one that was hidden in himself. For here is like a play within one’s being and he divides himself into Father and Son. When he proceeds into the world and assumes the garments of men, that is Son; he who conceived the part is God the Father. Yet the Son and the Father are one (Jn.10:30), but until the play is completely played he doesn’t know it. The Son doesn’t know it and the Son is asking, “Where is my Father?” That’s Job. The Father has hidden his face from the Son and the Son cannot find him. The Father doesn’t know who he is until the Son reveals him. So here, no one has seen God, as told us in the 1st chapter, the 18th verse of John, “No one has seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.” Unless the Son reveals the Father, the Father will never know he is God the Father. He is looking for the Son and the Son is looking for the Father.

Now, how do we know that he is the Son? We search the scriptures and in the 2nd Psalm we read the words: “I will tell of the decree of the Lord: He said to me, ‘You are my son, today I have begotten thee’” (2:7). These are the words of David. David is recording what he heard. He hasn’t seen the Father, he heard a voice like Job, “I will tell of the decree of the Lord: He said unto me, ‘Thou art my son, today I have begotten thee.’” He makes him now the king of kings, over all kings. Now comes the 89th Psalm where my friend looked up the title and in the 89th Psalm the Lord is speaking, “I have found David (:20)…he has cried unto me, ‘Thou art my Father, my God, and the Rock of my salvation. And I will make him the first born” (:27). Now, that in the misinterpretation is called or implied in Revelation, Jesus Christ, but that’s because we do not know the story. The first born from the dead, the ruler of all kings, well, the king of kings is the ruler of all kings and that’s David. When you find him and only when you find him and he stands before you as this eternal youth and calls you Father will you know who you are.

I prophesy for everyone in this room and for everyone born of woman—because none can fail—you will have this experience. I am speaking from experience; I am not theorizing. Were this not revealed to me by revelation I would not know it. I can’t blame anyone whether he be the pope or the simplest little minister in the world for not knowing it, for it comes only by revelation. Revelation gives purpose, gives meaning to the whole vast play. And the play is horrible, horrible beyond measure. And so when he cries out in that 22nd Psalm—he doesn’t know he’s a father yet—“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Go through it and see the horrors that he goes through. Now he comes to the end, and when he comes to the last two verses in the 22nd Psalm, the glory of it all, unborn generations will tell what God has wrought. He did it, he actually did it. He buried himself in the world and died as men…actually went through the gate of death, one after the other…and in the end he wrought it. He actually redeemed himself by redeeming his Son, his creative power. He redeemed himself because the Father and the Son are one, they aren’t two. There’s no room in God’s universe for a second, there’s only one. So the sons of God form God, and yet they are companions because we are individualized. Although individualized forever and forever together we form God the Father. We are God the Father.

So, “Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name and what is his son’s name? Surely you know!” (Prvb.30:04). Well, he gave me the cue in the question. What is his name? That doesn’t give it to me. Who established all the ends of the earth? That doesn’t give it to me. But he gave it to me in this question: what is his son’s name? Well, “his son’s name” then he is father. The minute you say “his son” you told me who he is…who established the ends of the earth. But you didn’t tell me his son’s name. You told me the son’s father’s name and that father is Father. So you read in the 17th of John, “Holy Father, keep them in thy name that thou hast given to me” (17:11). He gave me his name and his name is Father: “Holy Father, keep them in thy name that thou gavest to me that they may be one, even as we are one.” He’s praying now like Job for his friends and he wants everyone to have the experience that he has had, which is the gift of the Father’s name to himself…therefore he is Father.

Well, if he is father then there must be a son and the son calls him Father. That son is David. All the generations of man, take them all together throughout eternity and fuse them into one single whole, and that concentrated time into which all the generations are fused and from which they spring, personify it, and right before you stands an eternal youth. That’s eternity and he’s David. There’s no doubt as to who he is. I have heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you; and seeing you, you tell me who the Father is. He’s not another. I am the Father of you and therefore I have been the cause, for the Father is the cause of all. So in the 132nd Psalm, “O Lord, favor David and remember all the hardships he has suffered” (132:1). Favor David…well, David is humanity. Haven’t we suffered? Haven’t you lost a friend in death? Haven’t you lost a child, a parent, a friend, a relative, someone, and you lost them untimely and didn’t you suffer? The whole vast world suffers…that’s humanity. So, O Lord, remember David and favor him. Remember all of the hardships he has endured. Remember them and then favor him: bring him out of the grave. For David is buried in man. He is the Son. David is the Son that is buried in man, and the Son is the creative power and the wisdom of God. That’s David.

Well, then who is the Father? Scripture speaks of him as Jesus Christ. Well, Jesus Christ is the same as Jehovah, the same word; it is the Lord God Jehovah. So, “When you see me,” said Jesus, “you see the Father. Why do you ask me to show you the Father? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show me the Father? Have I been so long with you yet you do not know the Father?’” (Jn.14:8). Whoever has seen me has seen the Father…for “I and my Father are one” (Jn.10:30). “Well, if I am the father, then where is my son? And if the son honors the father and I am a father, where is my honor, where is my glory?” said the Lord of hosts to you, O priest. But every priest with whom I’ve spoken, every rabbi, every minister, every teacher of the so-called New Thought movement, not one can name me the Son. When I tell them who the whole story is and what the Son is and who the Son is, they ignore it. Once a fellow said to me, “Why, you’ve robbed me of 2,000 years of Christianity.” I said, if I have robbed you of 2,000 years of Christianity because of what I’ve told you, you never knew Christianity. Yes you have a large audience, a big, big audience and you think when you get there you’re doing God’s work. You do not know God. You do not know the Father or the Son. You have only empty words. But I can’t blame you. It comes by revelation and you refuse to accept the voice of one to whom it has been revealed.

It was revealed not by studying scripture. I went back into scripture to find support for the revelation that came within me…and there I found it by studying scripture. But it was a sealed book, the whole thing was sealed. As we are told, he sealed the testimony. Then he said, “The children thou hast given me are signs and wonders” waiting for the breaking of the seal. And they think these jaw-breaking names that he gave to Isaiah—and the word Isaiah simply means “Jehovah is my savior,” the same word as Jesus. Isaiah means “Jehovah is salvation.” That’s what the word Jehovah means, “Jehovah is salvation.” The word Jesus is “Jesus saves” or “Jesus is salvation.”

See the children thou gavest me. Well, he gave me children. There were two: one was a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes and one was the Son called David. Yet they were only signs because in the end there is only God. So what appeared to be the Son revealing him as the Father which is the creative power that could create, he returns to himself as simply the power, the creative power of the universe and nothing but. So he buries himself in his own creation and like an author finding no one to play the parts he plays them himself. He conceives the play and casts himself in all the parts. You have played or you are playing or you will play every part. At the end, the whole will condense itself and personify itself as a son and the son will call you Father.

You will know it without uncertainty. As you look upon him you know him more surely as your son than you know your own children. I have two from two different wives and I trust them implicitly. They look or resemble me. But I trust them when they say this is your child. I take it on faith, I believe them implicitly. But this Son, I don’t need any witness. When I look at him, I’ve been his Father throughout eternity that was before that the world was. I would play all the parts and having played all the parts, I will simply bring out the essence of it all. He will look into my face and call me Father, his God, and the Rock of his salvation (Ps.89:26).

I will bring back and save all the power that I have buried in every character that I have ever played. I have missed no character. Not one character ever played in this world have I failed to play. The world will say, well, you’re not so and so. I don’t mean reincarnation. I mean the tyrant? Yes the tyrant…that’s a character. It need not be a Hitler or a Stalin but a tyrant. The benevolent one?—yes the benevolent one. The wise, wise man?—yes the wise man. The fool?—yes. The one who judged and the one who was sentenced?—yes both of them…played them all. And in the very end—when the race is run and I’ve kept the faith, as I agreed in the beginning to dream in concert with my scattered being—at the very end here comes the coalescing of the whole thing and a projection of the whole thing in this glorious, beautiful Son. You can’t describe the beauty of the Son that calls you Father. And yet you know him beyond all doubt. You know him more intimately than you know any being in this world, because every being that you know here is wearing a mask, and he’s playing a part. You know him when he takes off the mask. When he takes off that mask, who do you think he is? You and he are one, playing all the parts, and yet although you are one, he is individualized as you are and remain individualized forever and forever. Yet we are one…we are the Elohim that go to form the Adonai, the Lord.

So here, it’s a riddle. It is not secular history. If I take the Bible and I see it as secular history, I will never understand it. So, when I say Jesus said so and so, and you think of a man talking to people, then you don’t understand Jesus. If I say the Son said so and so, you don’t understand: it’s a mystery. So here, who is my glory? Well, the Son glorifies the Father. I’m waiting for him, waiting for him to glorify me because he radiates and reflects my glory. I must find my Son. So if I would depart this world as a glorious being, I must first find the essence of my experiences in this life that would forever radiate and reflect my glory who is the exact image of my being. He has to be. And my being is a person, for I’m a person, and he has to actually be the embodiment and projection of my person…and that is David. Everyone will have that same beautiful being as his Son. So if my Son is your Son, are we not the same Father? Everyone will have that David and everyone will be the one Father; for there is only one God and Father of all. There aren’t two fathers, only one.

So here is the most daring story ever told to man. But man did not understand it and thought it was secular history…that they were writing up the story of an ancient world, how they battled, and all these things. No, it’s the story of the battle of the soul. The whole thing takes place within the soul of man and in the end he comes out unblemished, unscathed, as though you took off the costume at the end of a play. You stepped upon the stage and they hissed you for the part you are playing, and you went through the door and took it off. It was the costume you wore that they hissed, but you the actor who wore it were the author who wrote it, and the actor and the author are one. So you conceived the whole vast play and finding no one, because God is one, not two, there was no one else to play it, so he played it all. He is the diffused. I was a scattered being into all the parts, but the same being is playing all. And we agreed in the beginning to dream this play and to dream it in concert; not to break it, and only to awaken at the end having played all the parts. So each plays all and each comes out as the one who wrote it all. It doesn’t make sense to the mind of Caesar…it’s stupid. But while we are in the mind of Caesar and living in the world of Caesar, having to pay rent, he still reveals—to comfort the blows, because there are frightful blows—he reveals a principle by which we can do it.

A friend of mine, who is here tonight, said that recently he joined a group of artists. And every weekend on Saturdays and Sundays they go to different cities in Southern California and sell their paintings. He paints in oil on canvas. He went to this city and at the end of the day not a sale. The following day, it was just about the last hour of a sixteen-hour day, and it was like the day before, no sales. He said to his wife, “Come, let us get to it and bring some customers here before my canvases.” He thought because she does operate the law beautifully that she had helped him. So he said, “I didn‘t get the feeling at first. I must get the feeling of the end “having sold,” not “going to sell.” So I caught the feeling that I had sold. In the last matter of moments a man came by and bought three canvases and commissioned me to paint a fourth one. Now we are packing up when another sale takes place. On Monday night I came to your lecture and in the Silence I saw this glorious landscape.” And he painted a beautiful word picture of mountains, luminous edges, forming itself into one sitting posture of a man, crossed legs, crossed arms. “I felt so completely thrilled in it. Next morning one of my agents who displayed my pictures called to say he sold one of my large canvases that day.” So here, he caught the feeling of the end as taught in scripture.

If I ask you, do you know what you want, and you say yes, I know what I want. Then I tell you to believe that you have received it. I’m using now the past tense. Suppose I use even the present, the active, not future but the active tense, “Believe you receive it.” But I say, “Believe that you have received it,” that’s the true translation of the text. Well then, how would you feel? You sold it. Wouldn’t you actually feel as you would feel had you sold it? Well, that’s what he did, he caught that and that’s in scripture. It is given to man to simply cushion the blows because the blows are terrible. He has rent to pay, he has food to be bought, clothes to be bought, and the normal expenses in the world of Caesar. He’s an artist and these things must be sold and enjoyed by those who appreciate such art. So he caught the end…in the end is my beginning. I always begin in the end. Tell me what you want…well, now you have it…that’s the end. Go through the door as though you had it and walk in that assumption. Though at this very moment it is not accepted by your senses, denied by your senses, if you persist in it, it will crystallize and it will become a fact in your world. So in his case he sold the four canvases, or rather he sold three and was commissioned to do a fourth; and then the following day one of the big canvases was sold. I ask him to continue in that light. His work will increase in value. As he sells more and more he becomes more and more the professional, more and more in demand, and actually feel that.

The end is where you begin. No matter what you desire, make it the end, and dwell in the end just as though it were true…as God dwells in us in the end. He’s never violated his concept of what he intends. He dwells in us, as what?—as himself. God became as I am that I may be as he is. Well, he doesn’t waver, he dwells in the end. He sees me as himself until I see that I am he. And when I see that I am he, God has expanded himself by the experience and I am he. So, in the end there will not be just simply a bunch of little gods, just God. He actually is expanding himself by becoming man, which is the limit of contraction, and then going through all the experiences to break the shell to begin to expand. There’s no limit to expansion or to translucency; there is a limit that he set upon contraction or opacity which is man. So he takes the limit upon himself and then goes through, wearing that limit until he breaks it. When he breaks it, he has gained power and gained in wisdom by the experience of being man.

So, “Who established all the ends of the earth? What is his name and what is his son’s name? Surely you know!” (Prov.30:4). Well, the world would say the name is God, meaning what? Ask any two people in the world to define God and you will not get a similar definition. Ask any two people to define the son, they will say Jesus Christ. As the priest did to me, and the ministers did to me, and the rabbi also said believing that I was a Christian, which I am, “Well, I suppose you will say Jesus Christ.” He wouldn’t even give me a name, because to him Messiah hasn’t come, so there was no name that he could give me. All the others would say Jesus Christ and they could not define in similar terms what they meant by Jesus Christ. I tell you, you are God. One day you will know it, and you will know it when God’s only begotten Son calls you Father. And he who calls you Father will be David, and David in the Spirit called Jesus Christ “my lord” which means Father.

So now you know who Jesus Christ is. Jesus Christ in you is God the Father. And because he is Father he must have a Son bearing witness to his fatherhood, and that Son is David. There is no other Son. I wouldn’t care if the whole vast world, three and a half billion, rose in opposition! It would make no difference to me if they did. I would only know, wait, that’s all, wait. “The vision has its own appointed hour; it ripens, it will flower. If it seems long, then wait; for it is sure and it will not be late” (Hab.2:3). Just wait…on the appointed hour and you have played all the parts. If you haven’t played all the parts, you cannot by all the efforts of the world and the wisdom of the world bring David into view. He will come only when you have played all the parts, because he is the quintessence of all the generations of humanity and their experiences fused into a single whole and personified as the eternal youth whose name is David. Not one little part can be missing, so you play all the parts.

I will depart leaving you with these words, that this is the drama that you wrote. You will not falter; you will not break the spell. You will go through to the end so that you may actually expand and become stronger in the creative power and wiser in your creative wisdom than you were prior to the conceiving of the play. So you conceived it, became it, you played it, you are playing it, and in the end you are the God who wrote it. There is nothing but God.

So you can really forgive every being in the world for the part that he’s playing. I don’t care what part he’s playing. You played it, you are playing it, or you will play it. So in the end, having played all, you forgive all. “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do” (Luke23:34). Let those who still demand an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, a limb for a limb, let them do it, perfectly alright, until the end. But if you knew the one who wrote the play and that being is God the Father, would you demand what you now demand? You wouldn’t. But you don’t yet know that he is the Father who is playing the part, so leave him alone and let him condemn. If that is the law of Caesar, then let the law of Caesar take its full course. If you mean chop off his head, chop off his head…there is no death. There’s simply a departure from the scene for a moment when he continues, re-clothed in a body just like this, in a world just like this, to continue his journey. And in the very end, you return to the being that you are. “I came out from the Father, I came into the world; I am leaving the world and I am returning to myself the Father” (Jn.16:28).

So the search of man is for the Father. It is the story of Job: “Where is my Father?” When you read those forty-two chapters—and they’re not long, very short, you can read them tonight—it begins, he was a blameless man and one who feared God. The word feared means “to respect, to reverence.” And he had no part of evil. Then Satan, which is the embodiment of doubt, comes upon the scene to make him doubt. And then he is filled with sores and all the horrors of the world take possession of Job: the loss of his estate, the loss of his family, the loss of everything. When his wife said to him, “Curse God and die,” he didn’t curse God, but he cursed the day wherein he was born and the night that said a male child or a man child is conceived.

But in the very end, when he went through everything, he could say…as he prayed for others…because now he has heard it. For these words come first, “I have heard of thee with the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees thee.” After that confession within himself, he could only see God if the Son revealed him: “For no one has ever seen God but the Son who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known” (Jn.1:18). So if the Son had not appeared and called him Father, he never would have known who the Father was. Now he prays for his friends, because they must all go through the same horrors that he has gone through. So he prays for all of his friends and all of the good that was taken from him is returned. Showing the power multiplied a hundred-fold and everything is doubled in his world a hundred-fold, for all the evil that the Lord God had brought upon him. He discovered he was the Lord God and he brought it upon himself by the play that he wrote.

In the end you can pray for everyone…no matter what happens to them…to cushion it, because it’s yourself really. We’re invited to pray—even though they haven’t yet seen the end—to cushion them. To meet today’s deadline, to meet the tax bill, to meet this, to meet the other, and these are problems. Don’t say, “Well, alright, it serves you right.” No, use your talent to lift it a little bit, because you’re lifting it from your own shoulders. You’re invited to do that.

So here, this is the riddle. As we’re challenged in the Bible, who will accept the riddle and try to unriddle the riddle? He asks the priests if they could do it in that Book of Malachi, which is the last book of the Old Testament. So he said the of glory…“The son is the glory of his father. If then I am a father, where is my glory? says the Lord God of hosts to you, O priests” (1:6). You dare to teach my word and you dare to change my word. So when he asks the question in the 30th chapter of Proverbs, he said, “Every word of God is true. Do not change the word lest you be called a liar” (30:6). Do not add to it to give it sense…wait for the revelation.

But one who has had the revelation, listen to him. Hear his words…it has been revealed to him. He wasn’t a wise man in the sense of the wisdom of this world that he could unravel it by reading scripture. He only read scripture after the event for confirmation of what happened in him. For, he did not foresee it by reading of scripture and no priest told him. Suddenly it happened in him, and knowing the word was recorded, he searched the scriptures for confirmation; and here he found the written word was witness to the witness in him. So, he was the living word that interpreted the written word.

Now he tells it to those who would listen in the hope that they will accept it. But he knows whether they accept him now or tomorrow, eventually they themselves will have the identical experience. He can only hope that what he tells them as his own experience will be some kind of a prop against which they can lean in time of trouble. So, if they remember the experience and knowing that they are destined to have the same experience, no matter what happens to them they can lean against this when the troubles come…as they will come. They all come.

Now let us go into the Silence.

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In the end you can pray for everyone…no matter what happens to them…to cushion it, because it’s yourself really. We’re invited to pray—even though they haven’t yet seen the end—to cushion them. To meet today’s deadline, to meet the tax bill, to meet this, to meet the other, and these are problems. Don’t say, “Well, alright, it serves you right.” No, use your talent to lift it a little bit, because you’re lifting it from your own shoulders. You’re invited to do that.